Is God prochoice?

Is God prochoice?


The word foetus (plural fetuses) is from the Latin fetus, meaning offspring, bringing forth, hatching of young. It has Indo-European roots related to sucking or suckling, from the Aryan prefix bheu-, meaning “To come into being“. Therefore the uses of the words foetus or unborn child are fully interchangeable.

God, in his infinite wisdom, gave us life and He gave us choice.  When God created Adam He breathed into him the breath of life [his soul] and then He gave Adam and Eve the ability to choose between good and evil.  Ever since that fateful day in the Garden of Eden mankind has been making many wrong choices.

As quoted in God, is my soul eternal? the famous Oxford PhD and author C.S. Lewis observed, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.” If we are to believe God then, when a baby is killed, even moments after conception, a life is taken.  God says, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,..” and King David echoed this sentiment when he declared “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.” Even as a zygote you are a soul.

Yes, God is in favour of us making choices; intelligent, informed choices which are in keeping with His good and perfect will.  As is noted elsewhere on this website, there are always consequences to the choices and decisions we make be they selfish or selfless.

In all the noise of the arguments between prolife and prochoice groups the truth of the doctrine of choice is overlooked.  This is eloquently pointed out in a letter of rebuttal to a [prochoice] writer:

RE: Pro choice you are not

You call yourself prochoice?  You have to be joking.  You call me antichoice but I am far more prochoice than you.

According to your doctrine women should have the right to choose to abort any baby, any time.  But her baby has no choice. He/she must die.  The father of the baby has no choice and will be laughed out of court if he tries to stop you murdering his baby.  The grandparents, both sides, would love to show baby pictures to their friends but they have no choice but to helplessly watch a tragedy unfold.  Now you want to take away the choice of physicians to practice good ethical and scientific medicine.

In Canada, taxpayers have no choice but to subsidize your choice to kill.  The medical plan members have no choice but must contribute approximately 1.4% of their premiums to finance the woman’s choice to terminate babies they don’t yet want. Since the law limiting the practice of abortion was struck down, even the judges don’t have a choice but must follow suit.  It appears the government doesn’t have a choice for they believe if they tried to regulate the aborting of future citizens, they would lose the next election.

Ah, but you say the woman has the choice and her choice is all that matters.  No she doesn’t.  When she becomes pregnant her baby creates an engram or imprint in her mind.  Can a mother forget the child she bore? No.  That child will always be in her thinking, making her/himself known in dreams and subconscious thoughts until the day she dies. She doesn’t have a choice[1].  This happens automatically.

As for me, I am for free and informed choice for all, just like my Creator who said.  “Choose you this day whom you will serve.” So if God is prochoice so will I be.

After evaluating and treating the most severely depressed and handicapped children for so long, I am convinced there are no children that want to be dead.  So don’t pretend to choose for your child. He/she will always want to live.  Thus the child’s choice for life should trump all the others.

Philip Ney, MD – British Columbia, Canada

[1]This statement is borne out by statistics from many prolife pregnancy care centres, where many of those they serve are women grieving the loss of the child they chose to have aborted.  The work of these centres demonstrates their belief in God’s grace that these women, even having aborted their children, are still precious in His sight.

The following are links to video testimonies of those who have either had or participated in abortions:

A teen’s testimonyActress Jennifer O’Neill Speaks about her abortionMultiple women’s testimoniesKristina Martin, pregnant at 14 and 4 abortionsChuck Raymond gives a father’s testimonyAbortion from a woman’s perspectiveBeyond the choiceGianna Jessen an Abortion SurvivorFearfully And Wonderfully Made – Psalm 139

4 comments have been left.

  • Jerry left comment on April 14, 2010 at 8:58 am

    “There is help out there if one chooses to look but all to often we panic and take the seemingly easy way out at the time, not realizing the consequences of hasty and ill-informed decisions… Please keep in mind that we at Bus Stop Bible Studies make no professions of judgment on anyone.”

    You write here as if you know their stories as well as they do. And not only that, you presume to speak on their behalf. Bus Stop Bible Studies must keep in mind that until you can properly demonstrate that you have the footing for the authoritative stance you’ve attempted to place yourself in, your words are no more effective than the opinions (‘professions of judgment’) of an outsider.

    You quote Mother Theresa defining abortion as “..a war against the child – a direct killing of the innocent child – murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?”

    I’m assuming that if you didn’t support everything Mother Theresa said in this quote, you would have written so. Therefore, it is clear that you do support the legislative term “murder” as describing abortions. So, why don’t you make it clear to all who come to this website that Bus Stop Bible Studies is advocating for the Canadian government to legislate all abortions as murder? Why don’t you make it clear in your “answer” above that Bus Stop Bible Studies wants women who have abortions to be put in jail just like any other murderer? Why not clarify for your readers that the deterrent of being put in jail as a convicted murderer is Bus Stop Bible Studies’ loving attempt to persuade women not to have abortions?

    And if you also support these words by Mother Theresa: “..Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want,” your saying that Canadians doctors don’t just abort foetus’, they abort them in a violent manner, in fact, in ANY violent manner. Do you honestly believe this is the case in our country?

    BSBS Comment: Jerry, there is an inherent danger in generalizing. When we say ‘all to often’ it is a generalization, which, from the perspective of Bus Stop Bible Studies is the case, but we do no berate others for having contrary views.

    Bus Stop Bible Studies does not want anyone to be put in jail – quite the opposite! The desire of this ministry is for people to find ‘freedom in Christ’ thereby having the Spirit of God to guide them in all their decision-making.

    You use the medical term ‘foetus’ we choose to use the term ‘unborn child’. By dehumanizing the life of the unborn child (to a simple medical description) abortion can take on the appearance of a purely medical procedure. It is not. The killing of a child is violent – how could it be otherwise? There is a great deal of graphic and disturbing imagery available on the web if you are in any doubt.

    As for ‘advocating for the Canadian government to legislate all abortions as murder’ Bus Stop Bible Studies has no political aspirations. We certainly pray for our elected officials to make right decisions but we are not a political entity. As stated previously, Bus Stop Bible Studies is in the ‘relationship business’, encouraging people to seek a personal relationship with God through the person of Jesus Christ. That is our first priority.

  • Jerry left comment on April 13, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    BSBS said, “We have not heard of one mother who felt she made the wrong decision or a child who wished they had not been born.” You haven’t, but others may have. I know of a person who said he wanted to commit suicide at the age of seven. Nevertheless, anecdotal evidence (yours and mine) doesn’t provide a strong argument.

    BSBS said to Jenny, “..pre-meditated taking of a life is called murder in all societies and in the Bible. The only difference is that some societies fail to distinguish between life inside the womb and life outside the womb.”

    So, you’re advocating for: the government to legislate all abortions as murder, and for women who have an abortion to be put to jail just like any other murderer?

    BSBS also said to Jenny, “..there should be no distinction between loving the woman who finds herself in a difficult circumstances and loving the child she carries.”

    So, ultimately it’s our society that has failed to love both women and foetus’ by failing to provide sufficient support for troubled pregnant women?

    There are so many statistics on the Internet about abortion, it can make it tough to recognize which ones that DON”T have a bias. Some sites say that many girls have abortions to hide the fact that they had sex. My first thought was, “Now why would a girl go through so much trouble to hide the fact that she had sex? What is she afraid of?” Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of various situations of emotional abuse, many quite possibly from communities that frown on sex education. Abstinence is fine, but it’s unrealistic to expect every teenager (some with stronger sex drives than others) to be able to repress their sexual appetite year after year after year… And ignorance about a healthy sex life makes it far worse of a situation!

    Also, I struggle to imagine a lot of troubled pregnant women being able to share what exactly it means for them to be in their situation. And for those who are able to share, who would they turn to? Who could they trust to be compassionate and empathic? Somehow, I find it difficult that many possibilities would be from the population of males.

    And could these troubled pregnant women trust those that let their love for out-dated ideologies come before their love for a troubled pregnant woman in our contemporary society? And how many people would be willing to open their hearts to these troubled pregnant women by opening their doors and their banked savings, by putting aside some of their cherished priorities and plans for the future?

    With the little support these troubled pregnant women get, maybe the option for abortion could quite possibly be a valid need after all. Whatever the case may be, I’m not in a place to suspect millions of women to want to destroy what could grow into a child of their own. So, until I can demonstrate I know their story as well as they do, I’m gonna have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Or better yet, why not throw a little trust in their direction in the mean time? Why not trust women in general to do what’s right for their troubling situation?

    BSBS Comment: Jerry, you have hit the nail on the head when you say, “…ultimately it’s our society that has failed to love both women and foetus’ by failing to provide sufficient support for troubled pregnant women?” There is help out there if one chooses to look but all to often we panic and take the seemingly easy way out at the time, not realizing the consequences of hasty and ill-informed decisions.

    Please keep in mind that we at Bus Stop Bible Studies make no professions of judgment on anyone. Our one desire is that individuals seek God and look to Him for direction in their lives. Because He is able to meet anyone in any situation God will always bring the best out of any situation (see Romans 8:28) no matter how dire the situation may seem at the time. For many, it is only when they hit rock-bottom that they finally give up struggling in their own strength and cry out to God who hears from Heaven.

    At the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, Mother Theresa said the following, “But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child – a direct killing of the innocent child – murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love, and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even his life to love us. So the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love – that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts. By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. That is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. ” Mother Teresa delivered her address without rhetorical flourishes. She never raised her voice or pounded the lectern. Her power was in her words and the selfless life she has led. Even President Clinton, in his remarks that followed, acknowledged she was beyond criticism because of the life she has lived in service to others.

  • Jenny left comment on April 11, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    “…author C.S. Lewis observed, “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.” If we are to believe God then, when a baby is killed, even moments after conception, a life is taken.”

    Actually, no, that implies a BODY is taken, not a life. As God says, as you’ve quoted, before the womb, we had life. Before a body, we had life. Killing that body does not kill our soul.

    And if Jesus was all about changing laws, why did He distinctly stay out of politics while He was here?

    And frankly, the crux of the issue of pro-life is when the people involved show a complete lack of love for the women involved. If that’s not ungodly, I don’t know what is.

    BSBS Comment: You are right in saying that ‘a body is taken’ – the soul is eternal. Never-the-less, pre-meditated taking of a life is called murder in all societies and in the Bible. The only difference is that some societies fail to distinguish between life inside the womb and life outside the womb.

    Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them.” It is sad that taking of a life should be considered a political issue by anyone. Jesus may have stayed out of politics but it was politicians that killed Him.

    You are at least partly correct when you say that “the crux of the issue of pro-life is when the people involved show a complete lack of love for the women involved.” If love was the motivating force in decisions made, the outcome for most women would be completely different. But, there should be no distinction between loving the woman who finds herself in a difficult circumstances and loving the child she carries.

  • Jerry left comment on April 6, 2010 at 9:40 am

    I’m assuming that if you didn’t support everything said in this letter, you would have written so in your “answer” above.

    “It appears the government doesn’t have a choice for they believe if they tried to regulate the aborting of future citizens, they would lose the next election.”

    A democratic society elects officials to represent them, placing whatever restrictions on the society’s freewill as the society sees fit. Elections are never unanimous. What would you prefer to do, limit citizens’ electoral choices?

    “Thus the child’s choice for life should trump all the others.”

    Including cases of rape and incest?

    BSBS Comment: This is an extraordinarily sensitive matter. Perpetrators will ultimately face God’s judgment but what of the woman and the child? It would be very difficult to give a ‘right answer’ but it is worthwhile listening to the testimonies of women, and their children, who chose life. We have not heard of one mother who felt she made the wrong decision or a child who wished they had not been born. Additionally, one must not overlook the grace of God that is so often displayed and found in such tragic circumstances.

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